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12.03.02, Sharice, Adrian, MI , USA, Just wanted to tell you that your sight is rather humorous. Why don't you guys take a leap off the bridge. I would certainly pay my hard earned money to watch your body splat as it hits the water! Let me know when its your turn.
(much to our surprise, sharice included her e-mail
address. then the usual "Why don't you guys take a leap off the
bridge" crap. damn, and she started out so good
too.)
11.27.02, Kat, Canada, I feel sorry for anyone who had anything to do in creating this website... i feel sorry that you are so self confident that you have to look at other peoples weakness for amusement.... So many people die that want to live.. and people that commit suicide are selfish... and you disgust me... taking pleasure in this.. is absolutly disgusting... its cause of you so many ppl take their lives.. they think that its fun or a practical joke.. and that i feel sad about
("fun or a practical joke" to
take your own life? anyone that would actually take their own life because
of this site or do it as a joke, is obviously too stupid and is best taken out of the
gene pool anyway.)
11.27.02, Leslie T., Houston, TX., I found your site while researching information on the Golden Gate Bridge and suicide attempt survival. Although I find your site to be one of the sadest I've ever seen, let me try to glean something positive in recognizing that you do in fact include Suicide help information on your page (it does seem, however, that because of the nature of your site you are not exactly interested in helping anyone with suicidal thoughts). Having said this, I do have a suggestion for improvement of your site. Since you seem to enjoy your work, I think it would be a great idea if you were recognized for your accomplishments by putting the full name(s) (no email needed) of the web owners/administrators on the site. I noticed that this seems to be the only key information missing. Interesting.
(if you actually did "glean something positive"
from this site, it would have been perhaps the multiple times and ways we
encourage those that need and want help to get help. those that intend on
jumping anyway, will do so and there is nothing we can do about it, other then publish
the result of their stunt on this site. we see no viable reason to
include our full names on this site in order to allow those that hate the site
to perhaps harass us in a more direct manner. you want our phone numbers too? the form contact is sufficient, as
is demonstrated
by this reply to your idiotic statements. which, by the way, didn't include a return
e-mail address. interesting.)
08.16.02, Al, Aus, This is a sick site. This is a sick site. I despise the creator, I despise the users. I only got onto the site doing innocent HOMEWORK, as I am only an innocet CHILD. I will NOT disclose my age as I am not STUPID like you, the site users. I dont even live in the USA, but I do feel pain for the people who have to live with crazy minded lunatics who do. I AM DISGUSTED.
(thank you for your opinion. the creator despises you as
well. we're sure the users love you as little. we doubt your childness. we doubt your stupidlessness. we are
glad you do not live in the usa. may your pain run deep and long. yes, you are
disgusting.)
07.11.02, Melissa M., Largo, FL., USA, You must never have had a loved one commit suicide this way or you wouldn't be doing this. My elderly father was one of these jumpers a few years ago. It was the most devastating & gut-wrenching thing that I could ever imagine feeling. It was totally unexpected but he was the fulltime caregiver for my mother who was chronically ill for 30 years. I was with them helping everyday until midnight the week before he died trying to help them during a bad "spell". But no one ever saw my father as being a depressed person... he was the "life [and joy] of the party". It is very sad & I pray for you and for those in the pool that they you would all find Jesus. Ask him into your heart right now and he will forgive you... of anything! All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God but Jesus came so that we could be free of sin. Ask him into your heart and he will give you the power to overcome sin. You don't have to sin. You can be free. We are all here on this earth together, and if you have not experienced tribulation in your life yet, YOU WILL! The bible says that in this life we WILL have tribulation, but to be of good cheer because HE has overcome the world. We need to love one another instead of hurting one another. God loves you but he hates your sin. Repent and he will forgive you.
(first of all, melissa, we did have a loved one commit
suicide. he jumped from a bridge too. it was his choice and we feel he had that right. did he think about
what his family would go through after he pulled off his asinine stunt? if he did, it
obviously didn't matter to him, as he did it anyway. secondly, we are sorry your
dad chose to end his life as he did. again, it was his right to do so. the fact
he used the bridge was misfortunate, but since he had a goal set in his mind, we're sure he
would have found some other way, had the bridge not been there to give him the
altitude he needed. it
would also appear to us that your god and/or jesus assisted your dad in
taking that final step. was it god that allowed him to
jump? where were they when he was screaming inside for help? where were they when he was
stepping off the edge? reading the last half
of your submission about made our heads explode. luckily, we had wrapped our
heads with duct tape to hold it all together. we do thank you for your input.)
04.27.02, Kevin G., College Park, MD, USA, I'm very disappointed in your site. The concept behind it is both foolish and blatantly exploitive of the those who are suffering. Rather than mock those who have decided to end their pain in this way, you should help them.
I suggest a streaming webcam. (we have covered these points in great detail and will pass
on doing so again. all wasn't hopeless, however, as kevin included his
suggestion. maybe it's
not so much hate mail after all.)
04.20.02, KEVIN, You are glorifying this public health
problem(suicide). If you are not a part
of the solution,then you must be a part of the problem. This is innappropriate and immature. What is the prupose of the "game"? The game is
the one you are holding. That is guessing the gender and whatever else information of the next jumper. How sick? This is a sic way to draw
attention to something that is for your own benefit. (other than responding to
poorly crafted comments like yours, there is not all that much benefit in
running this pool.)
04.06.02, Skidmark,
You are one sad, sick f**k Go jump off your own bridge (thank
you for your well crafted comments. when we get our own bridge, we will consider your request to jump from
it.)
03.08.02, Joel W.,
hello, below i included some quotes you said on your hate mail page.
"if they insist on jumping, then i warn them that i, as well as others, will make fun of them. that in and of itself should stop some from jumping, as we tend to not want others to make fun of us. it's that simple. to prevent everyone from making fun of you, don't jump."
but later when someone asks you "what if someone was making fun of you committing suicide?", you respond:
"i can only imagine that if i were to commit suicide, other people making fun of me would not matter, being as i was dead and all."
Thus, since a person who is considering suicide will not care if you make fun of them, how can you say this site might prevent them from committing suicide?
i can't believe this site takes advantage of those who are thinking about
suicide. (we're sure there are many people so determined to do themselves in, that they could not care less if someone were to make fun of them. there is nothing
we could say or do that would stop them. what we did say is that it
might make some not jump. some not jumping is better than none not
jumping. [triple negative word score!] we would like to add that joel also ventured a jumper guess. maybe he
isn't so concerned after all. so joel, is the site offensive or do you want to win? good
luck!) joel writes back:
03.09.02, Joel W., hi. actually, originally i
thought the only way to give you my comment was to fill out the survey. later i
found out that i could just email you. btw, people seem to give you a lot of
trouble for your site. how often do you receive praise from people? also, do you
know if you have saved any people with your site? thanks!
(actually, had you read the form instructions, you
would have read "you may leave any input field blank, if you wish".
so far, we welcome and have posted every negative comment we have received. yet, even though there appears to be many detractors, there are
many favorable
comments.
there are many more times that amount in favorable comments, however, most of
those were generally the same and we see no reason to post so many that basically
dug the site in much the same way. you are free to hate the site, but until you give
us a better reason to pull it, your ranting will simply continue to amuse us. as
for have we saved anyone with the site, we would have no way of knowing that until
someone sends us some
info on it. we hope one day to see that happen. thanks for your continued
support. we now offer a hatemail form to expedite any and all
future bitching about this site, thus bypassing the jumper guessing part.)
09.04.01, Scabby,
I cant believe that you are incouraging
people to beat on jumpers. There has to be more ethical and productive
ways of making money, especially when the suicide death rate is already
so high, and thousands of people try to help these people, as well as having
to suffer from the loss of the loved one. Another thought is that
you are promoting and making money from people who are suffering and find
no way to work through their problems. It could be said that you
are actually participating in the death of so many people, isnt that murder?
(we have made a total of zero cents with this pool. in
fact, it has cost us plenty. there are no ads, fees, or income otherwise generated from this jumper
site. we also see you have not read much of it, but chose to bitch and complain
based on a quick glance. we do not encourage people to jump. we encourage
them to get help. if they insist on jumping, then we
warn them that we, as
well as others, will likely make light of their sad situation. that in and of itself
might stop
some from jumping, as we tend to not want others to make fun of us. it's
that simple. to prevent everyone from making fun of you on this site, don't jump.
are we murdering people? not hardly. we're not talking them into jumping. we are
not on the bridge giving them a boost over the side. how are you preventing
suicides? we don't see a link to your suicide prevention site nor do we hear
about your efforts to stand guard on the bridge to talk people out of jumping.
we're willing to guess that this site may prevent more suicides than you
will ever prevent.)
06.19.01, Brian, Tampa, FL.,
I think you are a sick man.
As a resident of Tampa I am shocked that anyone would create a site on
suicides and worse that people really guess. According to you our bridge
is striving to become the #1 bridge in suicides. That is sick. Really,
you are sick. I don't beleive someone would do this. Do you really have
anything else to do or are you a slob that sits on the internet thinking
of terrible websites you can make. I did come to this site looking for
a good picture of the bridge but now I am disgusted. Your a sick man and
I suggest you get help before you are the next one off the bridge. Get
help! (just last night we were whining that
it's been forever since a whiner sent bitchy mail to us, wishing we would
jump. then the very next day, brian chimes in and declares us "a sick man".
yes, brian, we have nothing else to do but slob out on
the computer, just
waiting for the next jumper. we love the mail complainers like you send,
even though it's usually the same thing every time, "blah blah your sick
blah blah you should jump blah blah i am disgusted blah blah". boring!
you even use the word "your" when you should use "you're", just like all you tampa illiterates. who helped you navigate to this "terrible
website" anyway?)
06.14.00, Mr. Baiter, St. Petersburg,
you are sick for even thinking about
doing this. what if someone was making fun of you committing suicide? (we
can only imagine that if we were to commit suicide, other people making
fun of us would not matter, being as we were dead and all.)
06.09.00, licklick,
this is sick, you are sick,
05.21.00, Toady,
I pray for the helpless, hopeless people who have reached
the bottom and have no one to turn to. I pity (and pray for)the scum of
the earth who wager on when they will take thier lives. Have you ever wondered
what gnashing of teeth and eternal flames will feel like? (judging
us now, are you? if anyone will know what the gnashing of teeth and eternal
flames will feel like, it will be the likes of you. there is no
hell, so we won't be going there. however, if there is a hell,
we're sure you'll be a greeter there us.)
05.08.00, Spooge,
You people are discusting. Suicide is not a joke. You WILL go
to Hell for causing this pain. (thank you for your well
thought out submission. short and to the point, you succinctly stated your
opinions and offered a conclusion.)
05.05.00, skippy, Washington, DC.,
Jogging once I came across the police
covering someone who had just jumped from a bridge onto the pavement below.
They tried to cover her entirely but couldn't. I remember later reading
she was an honor role high-school student at the "School Without Walls"
here in DC. Its several years later, but your site makes me remember
it like it was yesterday. It was the most disturbing thing I ever witnessed.
You wouldnt be doing this if you saw one of these jumpers. (we
hope to never see what you saw, but if we do,
we're sure we will live with
it.)
05.05.00, Booger,
this is sick and you need to be in a mental ward;nothing
better to do with your time. Creative? Have you ever encountered a suicide
victim? probably not seeing as you have this site.You must be very proud.SICKO!!!!!
(nope, our lives are so dull, running this pool is all we
do.)
05.05.00, Beryl, VA.,
So who are you still mad at? Your mother? (no,
yours. she used to service us and then make sandwiches. then she left us for
a cross dressing 'will work for food' bum. she said something about him being
your dad.)
05.04.00, Philippe D., Wallington, Surrey, UK.,
You are a totally sick person.
There is nothing funny about mental instability.
I hope that one day you experience something that will make you realise
how sickeningly cruel you are and amend your ways. (we
think we must be hitting close to home with philippe. maybe he has been
suicidal and takes this pool all too seriously. lighten up. you laugh at
your silly english humor and we will laugh at our sick american humor.)
05.04.00, Penn,
its very sad that you should go out of your way to make something
as serious as suicide a web site joke you obviously have no idea of the
pain and depression a poor soul would experience and the futility to take
their life leaving loved ones behind to suffer forever. i would hope you
would reconsider your perspective and take a serious look at what your
presenting to yourself and others. you need to grow up its obvious your
still half baked (it's "you're", a contraction for
'you are', not "your", which shows possession. please make a note of it.)
05.04.00, Robert H.,
read the Times
article, checked the website- doubtless the newspaper has promoted
the website. I find it in bad taste and would hope you could take your
creativity to better uses. I would rank your site with www.whitesonly.com
as an extention of misuse of freedom but I suppose we are stuck with
those who cannot understand or empathize with those different from ourselves.
What goes around, comes around. Put your talents to better use than you
are doing, the returns might be surprising. (we appreciate
your concern, we really do. we understand where you are coming from, however, we think you fail to see where
we are coming from. it is not
our doing that
people are jumping from the bridge. they were doing it before this site
became known and they will be jumping and doing other forms of self removal
long after the jumperpool has gone away. suicide is a very personal thing
and when someone gets to that point in their life, this site, what we think,
what you think, or what anyone else thinks, will not deter the suicidal
person from applying any means available to take the big dirt nap. we do
not promote suicide. we
demand that would be jumpers get help. if they don't
obey our demand, please allow us the freedom to make light of them. most
people don't commit suicide. many don't just because they know everyone
will think they were insane and/or make fun of them. by the way, the st. pete. times did not promote
the web site. if they had, they would have included the web site address.
they did not. the thousands of visitors to the site had used search engines,
word of mouth, and links provided on other web sites. one last thing, we
have no use for a web site called "www.whitesonly.com", but we would fight for
the rights of someone to have the site, as detestable as it would be. that's
the beauty of free speech, you are also free to avoid it.)
05.03.00, Drool, This is the most f**ked
up site I've ever seen. Maybe YOU should be the next jumper!
05.03.00, Lee L.,
whydonyou get a life (whydonyou get a
spell checker?)
05.03.00, Jim S., Middleborough, MA., a structural engineer, Such a beautiful
bridge and enginering marvel shouldn't be known as a suiciders paradise. (no
no, you are mistaken. it's an engineering marvel known for allowing
vehicles to cross a vast expanse of water. it just has that
little extra side thing going on with the jumpers. hardly a paradise.)
05.03.00, Ann G., saint petersburg,
I did this only because it
was here i was curious to follow up with your article in the st. pete times.
I think you are very demented and you might need more psychiatric help
then the jumpers do. i do not think that these people that choose to jump. these
people have troubled minds and need help from our God the father and i
resent the fact that you are making fun of them. moreover this is not a
very good form of reverse psychology. I think if you had enough time to
think up this demented web site then you might want to take the time to
find a way to help these poor lost soles instead as as human life is a
gift and it is a shame to take it away.. i will get a petition together
as i know people all over the web world wide and i will get have an email
sent to you like this and worse by my many online friends.I have them all
over the U.S and to Africa and Astralia etc. so hold on to your demented
hat there comming your way. Thik of these poor lost soles and maybe thier
family their trying to leave behind. (please
note right off, that this woman, as upset as she seems, ventured a guess
as to when the next jumper will jump and she almost won. she guessed june 06 at 3am,
just 3 hours too soon. come back and try
again, ann. that tends to
render her whining as perhaps satire. let's assume she is indeed very upset
and a bit too stupid to skip the guessing part of the form and really just
wanted to bitch. she claims jumpers need help from "our God the father". now,
correct us if we are wrong, but if these "poor soles" are indeed so
screwed up, wasn't "our God the father" responsible for making them
that way? apparently, "our God the father" has chosen some from his
flock to be pawns in a game where he must get pleasure from having them leap
from tall structures in a single bound, put a bullet into their own heads, down
15 days worth of pills in a single gulp, or any number of other ways to become
inanimate. she resents the fact we are making fun of them. boo hoo. we resent
the fact she has decided to be the 'political correctness police' for our
"demented" personality. as far as getting a petition together, go
ahead, but we are betting she is just full of hot air and too busy meddling in
other people's business to follow through. instead of getting all her world wide
buddies to send us e-mail, we'd rather they send nice postcards from their
homeland. we are guessing that all her world wide buddies that did come to the
site, all ventured guesses and want jumper t-shirts.) [as of yet, we have received zero mails or notice from
ann or her world
wide web of friends.]
people
respond to ann g:
05.04.00 Kimberley K., Austin, Texas,
I just wanted to give rebuttal to the complaint from Ann G. In her complaint she mentions " These people have troubled minds and need help from our God the father". Well evidently he doesn't give much of a shit, or he would step in and do something, don't ya think? I liked your comments after her complaint,
Phil. I don't think "God" made them that way, but "He" sure as hell could do something about it. Of course this makes the
assumption that he actually exists, which is a completely different subject that I will not bother you with. Oh, and as far as these poor lost souls families?...that is generally where the
f**ked up shit starts. I said generally, not always! You must keep in mind that there are several sides to each jumpers story.
05.04.00 Dan, Tampa, FL.,
Regarding the comment you made about God making people f**ked up, I must disagree. One of the wonderful things is he gave us the ability to choose for ourselves. If God constantly interfered with our lives, telling us what to do, how to do it, we would not be free. Yes, it has it's downside, but if you believe in freedom and you cherish your freedom, then you could not possibly want God to make you or anyone else do things differently. I believe we all were given a conscience by God as our last resort, IT tells us if we are about to do something wrong, but in the end it is OUR decision to listen to it. Now, with regards to Ann G.'s comments about seeking out help. Definitely, people should whether it be from God, friends and family, or even the darn Tooth Fairy for all I care. Killing oneself never solves anything. I adamantly disagree with her trying to petition against you for whatever she wants to petition since she didn't specify it. I assume it would be to get you off the web, which goes back to the whole freedom thing. You have the freedom and the right to go to Times Square and stand there babbling like an idiot if you want to, I have the freedom to stand there and listen or to walk away and leave. That is the beauty of freedom, it works both ways. BTW, if you're not quite sure after reading this as to whether it should be in the complaints or comments section, put it in both, more people can see it and decide for themselves. Wow look at that another wonderful thing about FREEDOM!
06.14.00 Lynne, Tampa FL.,
Why the heck is Ann G. so worried about her shoes? It seems to me she might be better serving to saving souls who are in peril and leave the
'soles' to the cobblers. Oh well, maybe she has a really nice pair of pumps. |
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